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 Post subject: Re: I use a controller & I'm playing well. Am I alone in tha
PostPosted: 06 18, 2012 /12:10 

jdb2 wrote:
rtr150 wrote:
You will not have a chance against serious players.


Like extremely good Grendel and Reflex Sniper players?...

Even against them. I'm even not talking about scar+laser players.
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 Post subject: Re: I use a controller & I'm playing well. Am I alone in tha
PostPosted: 06 18, 2012 /05:51 

Jeez....that was mean. I honestly answered your question and you got upset with me. I understood what you said. No reason to be so mean....


If you really want to test your skill with a controller join a FVIC pick up group.


   



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 Post subject: Re: I use a controller & I'm playing well. Am I alone in tha
PostPosted: 06 18, 2012 /06:12 

WaR_SPiRiT wrote:
Here: http://c2stats.com/pc/p_Liberte-BR

This is the potential you can reach. Now that there is a good stats sheet. And he plays with Xbox controller.



In fact, Liberte only use xbox controler for movements, for aiming he uses the mouse , an icari from steelseries


in my opinion, controler will never get close in performance to mouse for aiming

but good luck anyway


   



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PostPosted: 06 18, 2012 /10:42 

NinjaMatt2201 wrote:
Also, there were in fact plenty of times in Crisis 2 when someone popped in behind me, I spun and fired first, I consistently hit him from the first shot, and the only reason I died most of those times is because I haven't unlocked the better weapons yet, not because I didn't react well enough. And there were plenty of other occasions where someone thought they had the jump on me from whatever position, and I spotted them in time, turned and fired first, consistently landed my shots, and only died cause of my low level weapons. Once I unlock decent weapons, I won't be doing nearly as bad. Anyway, my point is, I do in fact react like you say isn't possible with a controller all the time, whether in Crysis 2 or Halo: Reach. If you wan't an example of what a skilled controller player can do in Crysis 2, someone already posted a vid and stats, so take a look.

i have to say that you havent unlockd better weapons till now is a bad excuse because the weapons you unlock later are not really better its all about the way you use it. i know many players who beat the **** out of me with the scar(not necessarily with laser) but arent as good with the feline or the scarab. so no personal offense but that you dont have unlocked better weapons is a bad excuse.
and back to topic i think like sdub that its nearlly impossible to get as good with the controller as the best players with m+k. I know a bit about i played cod4 with a controller and then switched to m+k and it is really better for me. so maybe you should really try it.
greetings leut


   

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 Post subject: Re: I use a controller & I'm playing well. Am I alone in tha
PostPosted: 06 18, 2012 /11:30 

yeah, the scar is one of the strongest weapons in the game. 85% of the time it'll win over any other weapon - at close to decent range.

I hate to say it, but there's a reason nearly everyone here uses a mouse and keyboard. it's way easier.

That's not to say you can't get decent scores with a controller, but it's gonna take a lot more effort.


   



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PostPosted: 06 19, 2012 /01:27 

I was killed a lot by machine guns that are significantly more effective than what I have. And I suppose it doesn't help that in shooters I usually don't do well with assault rifles, do a lot better with sub machine guns, and I haven't unlocked the smg's yet.
Also. "You should try m+k." "You should try m+k." How many times do I have to say this? I don't have much skill with m+k after using pc's for 25 years. How much do you want me to try? Please try to effing understand that fact this time. I'm tired of people just ignoring anything in my comments that contradict what they want to believe.
Is it really that hard to accept that someone could have had a different experience than you? Is there really no good playstyle but yours? No one has a very different style of play that works differently? You don't think the reason I disagree could possibly be anything but me being wrong about everything? Do you really know and understand more about my personal experiences than I do?


   



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PostPosted: 06 19, 2012 /01:34 

Can anyone admit that it might be possible that, for whatever reason, I personally have a higher ceiling to my skill level on controller than m+k? Can anyone at least admit that it's possible? Even if it doesn't apply to most people? Even if it means that I'm strange and backwards, can someone acknowledge the possibility of this scenario?


   



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PostPosted: 06 19, 2012 /01:37 

'Cause that's why I'm mad, because I have the impression that it's not even possible for you to do so.


   

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 Post subject: Re: I use a controller & I'm playing well. Am I alone in tha
PostPosted: 06 19, 2012 /02:23 

There is a simple explanation to why the mouse is superior.

With a controller, you're using sticks to adjust the direction of where your aim is moving, and how fast it's moving towards that direction, and when it stops.

With a mouse, you're using more than just one, or two direction and movement determining "forces" (like one thumbstick controlling horizontally, one vertically), you have instead have TONS of similar replacements for the thumbsticks (different muscles in your arm, wrist and fingers amounting to probably 20-30 muscles, all affecting the movement of your mouse(and DIRECTLY the position of your crosshair) in a different way, one that you have natural control over).

Basically, instead of two thumbsticks that you're moving with a few muscles to affect your crosshairs MOVEMENT, you have 20-30 muscles pretty much directly determining the LOCATION of your crosshair, not just how fast it's moving and in which direction.

It's like comparing to the first dualcore of graph targeting to a 24-core epic CPU with hyper-threading and insane clock-speeds, one of the 3 steps needed to complete its tasks removed.

This also explains why ultimately, aiming with your entire arm provides more control over your target than aiming with your wrist, or your fingers.


   



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 Post subject: Re: I use a controller & I'm playing well. Am I alone in tha
PostPosted: 06 19, 2012 /02:31 

well, i already saw people walking with their hands, and playing guitar with their foots...

good luck man

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