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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /09:36 

Freyar wrote:
kingcobra04 wrote:
I can't point and click on someones head with it. It is not nearly as precise as a mouse. That's why aim assist was in the game in the first place.... to make the game playable for all. You guys claim to do just fine no matter what so why so you care so much? Try plugging in a controller and shooting someone from a distance without the advantage of pointing and clicking. You will get owned 9 times out of 10. How can you "manipulate controls when you are much more limited than your opponent. If they wanted one control device to be fair superior to the other why did they even give you the option.


The game is playable for all, you just choose to use an input that isn't what works for the genre. You aren't limited compared to your opponent by the game, you are limited compared to your opponent by your own choice.

Crysis with it's vehicles involved would make using a gamepad fair enough, but in the infantry-based multiplayer of Crysis 2, it doesn't have as much of a place. Can you use it, sure.. but that is your choice to limit yourself to the controller's abilities.


I choose to use a SUPPORTED gamepad, so I should be able to kill someone as easy as my opponent can kill me regardless of what they have to do to balance it. There has to be a way make it even and make everyone happy but taking the aim assist option out of the game completely did not do that sorry.


   

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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /09:45 

kingcobra04 wrote:
I choose to use a SUPPORTED gamepad, so I should be able to kill someone as easy as my opponent can kill me regardless of what they have to do to balance it. There has to be a way make it even and make everyone happy but taking the aim assist option out of the game completely did not do that sorry.


Where does "supported" mean "same effectiveness"? Does the gamepad work? Can you look around and shoot with it? Yes? Then it's supported, hell it's even better than supported, all the buttons are mapped for you already.


   



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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /09:47 

inapropos wrote:
Give it up.

This wasn't a good topic to begin with are you're well aware as to why.

You're playing on a PC... cope with the advantages or constraints of the hardware, as you see them, and don't bother with being argumentative on a forum when you already know the subject will be controversial.

The developer eliminated auto-aim. The reasoning behind the elimination is not pertinent, though justified.

Deal.



Who are you to decide? Give it up with the PC guy elitist attitude. I like many others want an enjoyable gaming experience just like you do. So why do you guys get to whine and complain to get something out and we can't do the same to get something back? Pot meet kettle... and to the comment about it out and no coming back. We'll see what they do because they can put it back, tweak it, do whatever they want to do just as easy as removing it. There needs to be something because nothing isn't working.

I have hardware it's a 360 controller and when I played the demo it worked well now I bought the game and experience is 100% different for me but you guys are not effected one way or another. So how is that fair to the guys that play with the gamepad? The game need balance and right now it isn't. If you guys don't like the gamepads presents go find a game that only supports keyboard and mouse...


   



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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /09:49 

Harmatia wrote:
This is an example of the needs of the majority outweighing the needs of the minority.

The whole damn point of PC gaming is mouse and keyboard, actual skill, and no auto aim. Letting people like you enjoy yourselves is what consoles are for.


I don't get the whole argument that "PC takes skill but console auto-aim doesn't". I played console FPSs for two years before switching to PC, and using the mouse is worlds easier than using a gamepad, even with the AIM ASSIST taken into consideration. One of the main reasons for me playing PC over console is because of how much better and easier it is.

If one really thinks that using a mouse takes so much more skill than using a gamepad, then that person must have trouble browsing the Internet or using a computer in general. So many precise clicks to be made.

If a game is going to tote gamepad compatibility from the menu, then it needs to have aim assist.


   

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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /09:52 

kingcobra04 wrote:
Who are you to decide?


He isn't, but the PC community and Crytek are.

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Give it up with the PC guy elitist attitude. I like many others want an enjoyable gaming experience just like you do. So why do you guys get to whine and complain to get something out and we can't do the same to get something back? Pot meet kettle... and to the comment about it out and no coming back. We'll see what they do because they can put it back, tweak it, do whatever they want to do just as easy as removing it. There needs to be something because nothing isn't working.


Because this is the PC platform. On that, the primary interface is the keyboard and mouse with much less noticeable assists. (Mouse Acceleration and smoothing are notable ones, but a fair number of people disable that anyway...)

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I have hardware it's a 360 controller and when I played the demo it worked well now I bought the game and experience is 100% different for me but you guys are not effected one way or another. So how is that fair to the guys that play with the gamepad? The game need balance and right now it isn't. If you guys don't like the gamepads presents go find a game that only supports keyboard and mouse...


Don't like it? Contact EA for a refund on it. You're playing on the PC with other PC players, and the community as a whole has said you can use your gamepad, you just can't have an aim assist.


   



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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /09:54 

Freyar wrote:
kingcobra04 wrote:
I choose to use a SUPPORTED gamepad, so I should be able to kill someone as easy as my opponent can kill me regardless of what they have to do to balance it. There has to be a way make it even and make everyone happy but taking the aim assist option out of the game completely did not do that sorry.


Where does "supported" mean "same effectiveness"? Does the gamepad work? Can you look around and shoot with it? Yes? Then it's supported, hell it's even better than supported, all the buttons are mapped for you already.


yes they put the controller into the game because they saw that people are going to use it. Now it is such a disadvantage to use it is almost not worth playing with. Which suck for guys like me that really have no desire to play on Mouse and Keyboard. I did very well in the demo and had lots of fun. If I would have know that i was going be getting killed over and over when I clearly start shooting first I would have never bought the game.


   



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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /09:59 

whodamanxbox wrote:
Face the facts guys, with no new consoles in the forseeable future, controllers are a MUST for PC gaming. If you want to stick with the KB/mouse (oldschool), maybe you should keep to Diablo/Sim games.
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weak troll is weak 1/10


   

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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /10:01 

kingcobra04 wrote:
yes they put the controller into the game because they saw that people are going to use it. Now it is such a disadvantage to use it is almost not worth playing with. Which suck for guys like me that really have no desire to play on Mouse and Keyboard. I did very well in the demo and had lots of fun. If I would have know that i was going be getting killed over and over when I clearly start shooting first I would have never bought the game.


Controller support is usually there to begin with since it's already done. Being primarily a console title that was also released on the 360, everything was already completed.

You may have had fun during the beta (yes, beta) by being able to snap to your target with aim assist, but that doesn't work for competitive environments on the PC platform.


   



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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /11:23 

Well I agree to disagree. Here is my reasoning:
1: PC and consoles have always raged wars on each other....
2: KB/M will always favor FPS
3: Controls will dominate over mostly everything else unless you have advanced controls for game eg.(driver,flight sims.)
I am both console and PC gamer. I stand by my brethren though on the fact that people want equal rights on PC as well as console, but are not willing to give up the fat that they will be at a very big disadvantage in PC FPS world.....

I have just returned to PC gaming since, been absent for a bit but I can tell you nothing is greater than 1:1 interface.

If the PS3's Move can do what it says then you will have your next 1:1 movement device for console gamers. Verdict still out on Move since I have not bought it yet.

I have 2 systems that run over 2k easy and a laptop that runs about 1.8k. I still prefer atm controls until I get back into Pc format.

This in anyway or form make me a PC or console hater but when ya gots to cheat to win thats wrong....


   

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 Post subject: Re: No auto Aim ? Why ?
PostPosted: 03 24, 2011 /11:37 

ultramarine217 wrote:
Auto-aim? Controller? On a PC? This is blasphemy! This is madness! THIS. IS. CRYSIS.
This ^^


   

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