Bring it bitch. I'll own you any day :D. I love how controller users actually think they can own and talk ****. But yet they are the ones bitching about auto aim. LMAO. With or without auto aim I'll easily beat you no problem. So will 99% of the rest of the gamers on this forum who use a mouse and keyboard competitively with Crysis 2.

There is nothing in this post which consists of a legitimate argument. You tell me to do your digging for you (go and compare the two for precision) which is not suitable in proper debate. You do your own leg work.

For that matter, I have all the consoles and a nice PC. I stand by my position.

If you want to sit there and hop up and down ranting "my opinion is fact!!" That's fine, but I'm not going to take you seriously.

Bottom line is: Your opinion is subjective, just like everyone else's.

As for dismissing the rest of what I have to say- how very classy of you. High brow.

Lol I'm not twisting my opinion to fact you idiot. If you actually compare the two devices at their core as in the way they are designed from a software, to hardware level one is better then the other. But whatever you can say it's opinion I really don't care. It's fact and that's all their is to it. Some explained it earlier in this topic and I really don't feel like actually elaborating because it's a moot point. You people will believe what you want. Like console users have always done.

The rest of your post is pretty much worthless and has already been touched on by other users so there's no point reinventing the wheel.

Also I forgot to include this :



Again Keyboard and mouse work in tandem. As in one packaged deal. When you get good with both you will find just how bad the controller is at precision. But meh again like I said you console/controller users never accept fact when it's placed in front of your eyes. I've went around and around with you people on hundreds of forums and I've found it's quite pointless and a waste of time. So I'm done.

EDIT: Also tell me this, if K&M weren't automatically better at precision then why did you say this?


Also why do you need aim assist then? The answer? Because at a HARDWARE level the K&M are actually superior devices. Otherwise you wouldn't need a software to assist you with aiming. So you pretty much agreed with my argument the entire time. Otherwise you wouldn't need aim assist in the first place.

If it hurts your back to "hunker down", perhaps a better chair or posture is in order?

At a hardware level the mouse is more precise, and I have no qualms with it. However from my point of view the keyboard is ergonomically inferior and provides fewer positions of comfort when sitting.

Regardless, I prefer to have all the utilities I need (buttons, various inputs) in a very small amount of space between my hands that I can take and sit however I please.

Ah, resorting to Ad Hominem. Well the dialogue between the two of us appears finished, and I can't say I'm much distressed over this. You erroneously label me a "console gamer" though- I game on all the platforms. Simply because I disagree with you on the matter of user input does not mean I magically become stuck to one particular group and label.

As for the earlier poster:

Comparing the PC's to the consoles in terms of "fairness" is out of scope. Developers have the option to implement keyboard and mouse controls on the PS3 at the very least, and it HAS been done before (RFOM 1) Microsoft, on the other hand, disallows this practice.

Regardless that has no bearing on PC gaming, especially considering many tout that platform as "open" and full of opportunities, choices and flexibility. So allow me the use of aim assist.

+1

Well then your choice is to use the hardware without the software handicap. Otherwise go to the console which provides not only the hardware but also the software handicap.

PC's are primarily K&M based platforms so we have the hardware and software on our side. Consoles are primarily a controller based platform so you have the hardware and software on your side. Pretty cut and dry if you ask me.

You want aim assist? Consoles are -> way.

Also see Freyar's post. He pretty much sums it up better then I can. I need sleep.

Paste fail :S

Your position is an emotional one, not a logical one.

So us talking past each other is hardly surprising.


"Eliminates the finesse"? What exactly constitutes finesse here? How is aim assist on a substantially more imprecise input device unsportsmanlike like? For that matter, why should anybody care about your points of view regarding aesthetic?

"Finesse".

Oh please.

Bye bye then. Doesn't mean anything to me. Really don't care if you agree with me or not. I'll still sleep tonight.

Ok, I play FPS on consoles too since I play alot of splitscreen games with friends. If there was an option to turn off any kind of aim assist, I would do it. I still managed to do fine...just had to strafe a little more to get the fine tuning down, but thats it. In fact, I hated forced aim-assist since it would have a habit of drawing your reticle in a direction you dont want it to go, or throwing off your tracking of an enemy if another happens by in different direction.


I played a few levels in SP on Post-war with my 360 controller and can still manage just fine WITHOUT any handicap (because, really, thats what it is). I'll try MP when I can actually play it.