Hey, woah, I'm no Halo fanboy. Halo isn't even my favorite game series. I'm more of a Metal Gear Solid fanboy.

-no i was talking about raptor teams non existant advanced weaponry :P
plus a spartan has shield, and yet the one spartan killed 2?
-age question seems like a repeat, i think i already said that i didn't mean the special forces guys, course unless they played cod or crysis
-so they have normal human bones? carbon fibre isn't really that flexible and the ceramic pl8ts would shatter if they got hit which would do damage
- the story with the exoskeletons seems unlikely, you can't dodge a bullet travelling at what 800m/s in a small distance
sorry gotta go back to school i'll finish later
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium read the properties ;)
-but bones don't break like that, what happened to the layer that has padding and absorbs physical damage? a power suit only does what the operator does for precision
-yeah i just played halo 3 odst and reach(though even if you have the hazard helmet you still can't breath :(
-there are many times where alcatraz or nomad or any other suit operator would win
-yeah i know but metal boots don't sound that quite and considering that it ways over half a ton the effect would be bigger, yeah i remember, maybe elites can't hear as well i dunno or maybe it was cause of mud/grass, why would a nanosuit make step noises if it has rubber soles and was most likly designed to be quite aswell, i doubt that the spartan armor was designed for stealth since the cloak is only a mod
-considering that a nanosuit punches that hard i don't thing it would need a second one, also the operator is stronger even without energy, the nanosuit has hydrogen cells but they re just for rechargin and among other things like co2 from dead bodies, also why would a soldier want to get close to the other? if a nanosuit operator gets behind a spartan he is essentially dead since shields only seem to protect against high velocity things and explosions and there is no armor around the neck, also having a small battery thing the nanosuit isn't bulky

One spartan killed 2? What are you talking about?


Yeah, they have normal human bones, infused with a ceramic carbide alloy. And Carbon fiber actually has a very high strength to weight ratio, which is why it's used as a component in bulletproof vests, racing bicycles, racing boats, aircraft hulls, and even guns. And while ceramic itself is brittle, alloys of it (such as ceramic combined with carbon fiber or plastics) can create extremely strong substances, such as armor plating for tanks. So combined, carbon fiber and ceramic makes bones virtually unbreakable.

However, some Spartans did suffer broken bones when they crashlanded from a high orbit jump.


Remember, this was when they had their physical augmentations, along with reflex enhancements. And they didn'tdodge bullets; they dodged stun rounds, which were relatively slower.


Yeah, but I learned something different in chem class, so I'm iffy on this one. Besides, even if titanium is soluble, you'd need to submerge Chief in a bath of concentrated sulfuric acid for quite a while before it really hurts him. Contrary to popular belief, acid doesn't instantly melt anything it touches. The process takes a while, which is why if you work at a lab and you spill acid on yourselfm you don't feel the burn until maybe half an hour later. Trust me, it happened to me. And trust me, it sucks.


It's not external force that breaks the bone; it's the internal forces of the bones moving at such high velocities that causes them to literally break themselves. All the padding in the world won't protect against that.

It's the same reason why a Spartan can still hurt himself if he falls from great heights without the armor. Even though his bones are unbreakable and can take the impact, the organs would still be bruised from moving at such high velocities during the fall.


I never said the nanosuit made noise, I just said the Spartan suit doesn't make relatively loud noises either. And just because it doesn't have cloaking doesn't mean it wasn;t deigned for stealth. As I said before, several missions in previous Halo games have you undergoing stealth, even without the Cloaking Armor Power.


That power punch didn't really impress me at all, it hardly send a human flying more than 5 feet. Much less an augmented human being encased in Titanium armor with energy shields.


Well, I don't know the battle parameters. What if they don't have weapons?


Actually, the shield are always up. Only Sentinel shields are motion-sensing.


The neck verterbae are reinforced, remember?


The fusion pack on Spartan armor isn't bulky either. Last time I checked, i

Hey, I could really care less about Greece, all I'm sayin' is that Nanosuit pwn Spartans. Plain, and simple.

you said a spartan killed two people in the exoskeletons and harmed the others...
- you can't really infuse something like a bone, it has to be reinforced, carbon fiber is strong and light but it needs to be covered in something cause its highly irritant, isn't alloy a metal term, ceramic needs to break in order to work and it wouldn't make it near indestructible-far from it
-erm high orbit drop?
-how much slower, still in hundreds of meters/s?, i'm confused cause whenever i read about increased reflex and stuff its the suits response to movement, you just can't move that fast
-well i doubt long since it soluble so a flamethrowe like weapon would do
-i don't think you were using the concentrated stuff
- i still don't get how the bones would break, speed doesn't matter
-yeah organs and stuff are still normal, again carbon fibre isn't unbreakable especially the thin layer for bones and ceramic is really only 'strong' when a high velocity thing hits it in the process breaking it
- i know you didn't say that, k just that a 600kg thing on two tiny legs walking on tiles and other easy to break stuff would make noise when they break
-i could just as easily say that with a spartan punch, heck it doesn't even send those tiny grunts flying,
considering that you can kill an alien in a metal exoskeleton with one hit sounds pretty strong to me,
armor doesn't do much in increasing your strength its the thing that moves with ya and enegy shields don't make ya stronger either, plus he could always kick you :P
- not engage in combat?
- so if the shield blocks everything then how can they breath?
- no i don't and a cut jugular is still cut
- yeah must be just the armor and light thing on his back

didn't the spartans lose cause they were betrayed?

f*** this thread

First get this dam game fixed...stupid bugs EVERYWHERE
then we'll talk about which character is better



f*** yo mama

I haven't encountered any problems in SP... MP is a completely different story
btw if the spartan armor has a fusion cell and you said it doesn't need to recharge then why do shields need to recharge?

I said Chief killed 2 ODSTs and injured the other two. Spartans don't kill fellow Marines unless it's an accident. Let me clarify each battle that I mentioned:

-At the age of twelve, a team of spartans infiltrated a military base to steal a flag from its center, as part of a training exercise. They were only equipped with tranq pistols, and did not have any protection aside from white t-shirts and sweatpants. They didn't steal any lethal ammunition because they don't kill fellow Marines

-After physical augmentations, a squad of spartans were pitted against 3 marines who were wearing exosuits. Each exosuit was equipped with a mini-gun that fired stun rounds. The Spartans were unarmed. Again, no Marines were killed, since Spartans don't kill fellow Marines. The Spartans merely disabled the suits by ripping open the hydraulic ports, or just knocking them senseless.

-After physical augmentations, Master Chief was attacked by 4 ODST soldiers who were apparently PO-ed that he accidentally damaged one of the weight lifting machines. He accidentally killed 2 of them and gravely injured the other two, since he had no control over his stregnth. Other Spartans also accidentally killed their trainer when they were sparring with them, for the same reasons. Once again, Spartans don't kill friendlies.


It wasn't an infusion; it was a reinforcing graft. If I said infusion, I meant to say graft.


The graft was designed to be non-reactive and non-irritative. It's like how doctors fix broken bones; they set the bone and will sometimes attach the bones with titanium spikes or screws to keep the bones in place while they heal. Those titanium attachments were designed to be non irritant. Same goes with the graft.

Also keep in mind that not all Spartans survived the procedure. Since they were still 12-13 years old, some Spartans experienced growth spurts during the grafts, which caused their boned to become pulverized.


Fine, let's call it a mixture, if we're going to get this into semantics.


Not the kind used in composite tank armor (technical ceramic, I think it's called)


The bones aren't indestructible, they're just unbreakable. You can still punch holes through the bones with armor piercing bullets. It's just high pressures that normally shatter bone will not break these reinforced bones. That's why most Spartans suffered no broken bones when they fell to the ground from high orbit.

Yeah, a high orbit drop. It's like skydiving to the ground from space...without a parachute.


It's around 100 meters per second. And keep in mind that these aren't normal humans; they were augmented before they fought the exosuits. Considering how Spartans can run at around 35 miles per hours, I'm sure Spartans can dodge stun rounds.


Human flesh is soluble in concentrated acid, yet it takes a while for concentrated acid to eat right through it. I'm pretty sure solid Titanium A will take even longer for acid to burn through.

And a flamethrower, wtf? Since when does solubility in acid automatically mean fire can effectively destroy it? Titanium has an enormous melting point; It takes several bursts of super-heated molten plasma to melt through it. The only flamethrower I can think of that can effectively get past that armor is the one from Halo 3, and that one has an extremely short range and weighs as much an an HMG, if not more.



It's the force from the velocity that breaks the bones. For example, if you weight-lift and you try to lift a weight that's too heavy, you'll strain yourself and can tear a muscle. There's no extermal force acting on your muscle, so wearing all the padding in the world won't prevent you from tearing a muscle, since the muscle is subjected to internal forces rather than external. Same thing goes with the Marine's arm: he raised his hand so fast that his bones can't handle the speed and it merely snapped.


Well, that depends on what battlefield they're fighting on, I guess.


I'll concede that, although he wasn't using his full stregnth when hitting grunts.


Spartans can do the same thing.


Except Spartan armor DOES make you stronger. It doubles or triples your stregnth, if I remember correctly.


It's permeable to air, which is why the helmet has filters in case the environment gets contaminated.


I can't see Alcatraz sneaking up behind Chief since Chief has a motion sensor that has a radius of several meters.


Since when did Spartans lose?


The shield has its own generator and power source, and isn't fed by the fusion reactor.

lol this thread shows some people have no life or girlfriend.