bout to get a mac with all the bells and whistles…
3.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
16GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 4x4GB
2TB Serial ATA Drive + 256GB Solid State Drive
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5

is this good enough to run crysis on the highest level

I don't know if there's a native OS/X version of any Crysis, but you can run at least the first one somewhat competently on WINE.

DO NOT BUY A MAC OR ANYTHING FROM APPLE. <- Words from a Computer Engineer.

/\Rukumo may you explain why not?


i like pc, but info on why is good

MAC computers (and apple hardware in general) are developed as closed systems. Software for Windows or Unix-based platforms is much more "open" to anyone, and their communities are far stronger. Windows in particular, has EVERYTHING you could ever google for, everything is just extremely "tinker-able", customizable, whatever.

MAC hardware also tends to use proprietary BIOSes and is nearly unupgradeable outside new HDDs or more RAM, things of the sort. MAC-specific hardware is a gazillion times more expensive than PC hardware, whether it be parts or entire computers.

It's best to avoid "built" computers altogether, however, and just buy a PC from the ground-up yourself. You save a ton of money, it's damn interesting and it isn't hard to do at all.

You can follow instructions? You can build a PC. The only real issue is finding out which parts to put together (as they must support each other and be balanced in power/features), but there's a ton of information on that on the net.

Bottom line is, as hard as it may be for some to swallow, Apple is for hipsters. Almost every computer scientist/engineer on earth will tell you this cold, hard truth.

.....than from that post, i guess you and me can both agree Windows 8 is gonna suck...
it has a some what close system as well

in downloading things, from what i read.

ether way, I'm just stay with pc

It doesn't, the Windows 8 core remains as open to development as ever.

I hopped onto the test releases and It's just a more optimized, lighter, faster Windows 7 with a pretty Start Menu.

Yup. The METRO interface is just a very pretty (and useful!) Start menu. You can switch to Desktop mode (windows 7-like) at any time, and it is in fact the "core" of the system. Most people will spend all day in Desktop mode: Who spends all day in the Start Menu?

Faster, lighter, more optimized Windows 7. What's not to love?

from what i have seen, the start menu is that metro right? it works great with touch scene not so much for mouse..
and second thing is how the App store works,

TL;DR Apple is severely overrated and overpriced

The App store is absolutely optional (and I know for one I will NEVER use it). You can even delete the shortcut in METRO and customize it COMPLETELY to whatever buttons you want it to have. For instance, I turned it into my games hub! Remember the Games Explorer from Windows 7? Well I just put really big and pretty icons of my favorite games on Metro!

I have used it extensively and I assure you, it works flawlessly with a mouse. Frankly I shared most of your concerns, but when I actually used it, I was surprised at how well everything worked. Initially I was like "Oh c'mon, touchscreen bullsh**". I still tried it and hell, it works very, very well!

You'll see :)

@DandelionL2: Yes. It is also severely closed and restricted. And as a company, Apple is OBNOXIOUS. MS might get a lot of hate, but it's Apple that's running the slave/death factories in china, treating their workers like cattle and poisoning them with toxic fumes...

....the thing is i want the start menu back...i like that
do we still have it? many things i read that its not
that you must use the start menu....also issue like if you close youtube(bring it down) the audio stops.....

that you must use this new feature to drag it to the side thing.
so was it change?

also Windows 8 its possible to become close end with the app store meaning all DL has to be done by that,


i have to read more about it......

also lol Windows have a history of Win then fail then win then fail
by that order 8 is at the fail point lol