Post a reply Post a new topic Previous topic | Next topic      Page 1 of 11    1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 11  
Author Message


Joined: 04 03, 2011 /11:49

Posts: 80

Location: United States
 Post subject: How to play better?
PostPosted: 07 30, 2012 /09:47 

How can I get better at the game? I play better than most randoms online, but worse than a lot of guys in a clan, at least the better clans that are mentioned here. I don't understand what they are doing to be so efficient with their movement and energy. I try watching matches on YouTube... but that doesn't work so well since most players are on PC and movement and kills differ on PC. The console matches I have seen haven't really shown me too much that I can't already do.

Here is a rundown of how I generally play:

-FY17 is my weapon of choice... with extended mags and laser sight

-suit modules are energy transfer, stealth enhance, and aim enhance

I have used other weapons, SCAR, feline, MK60, I just prefer the FY17 because it's more damaging, more accurate and more mobile than the SCAR (I believe - not 100% positive). The feline is OK, but not damaging enough and the clip is small and the rate of fire is high... so I'm lucky to get 2 kills per clip and I like something that feels like it has a little more "weight" behind it. The feline feels like I am wildly spraying with it at times. The MK60 is fine, especially with rapid fire, but I like to run constantly and I feel like I run faster with the FY17.

Normally, I don't lose too many gun on gun encounters. Sometimes I'm distracted or something or someone is bugging me or my head isn't in it or I get impatient and my aim suffers, but really it's not a problem... also lag hurts my aim at times, but again, it's not a real problem. I win 4/5 gun on gun encounters where I pop out of cloak into armor, kill the guy, then cloak again and take off running.

The encounters that cost me my life 9/10 times usually happen when I see a cloaked guy running toward me. Sometimes we brush past each other when I notice him, it appears he notices me at the same time and somehow I can never win the ensuing exchange. He will elbow me down. Every now and then I get lucky and manage to get enough bullets in him, but not usually. I don't know how to find him on screen as quickly as he seems to find me. I also have trouble meleeing in general. If I see someone that I want to just melee kill, he manages to turn around and kill me after I get one hit. A lot of the times, players that have been able to kill me this way are not particularly good players otherwise, so when I melee first and he kills me, it leads me to believe there's something I'm doing wrong rather than there's something he is doing right.

The obvious thing to do, in my opinion, is use cloak tracker to see and shoot the guys before it gets to the point of them being close enough to run circles around me and melee me to death. The problem I have had with this, is that initially cloak tracker is an absolutely useless module. Seeing where someone entered cloak helps me none at all. I need to level it up to see any benefit, and it also replaces stealth enhance, which is pretty much integral to how I play the game.

Also... how does one move like Noobified? I have seen him and a few S2K guys move in such a way that it's hard to target them even as they are killing another player. Whatever they are doing is not simply a matter of jumping (although I have seen a bunch of players Halo jump and kill you, and have done it myself every now and then - it's not a problem, I understand what they are doing and generally how to take care of it). I just wonder how to move in such a way myself... like they are running straight toward you but zigzagging.

The best I have ever done in TIA is 30-6, and I had to really have a good game against bad players to get that. lol Under normal circumstances, the best I can do is high teens to mid-twenties with deaths in the single digits, this is pretty consistent. Of course, I do have bad games or sessions where I go 7-14 or barely break even, but usually not.


   



Joined: 06 25, 2012 /11:26

Posts: 19

Location: United States
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 07 31, 2012 /02:53 

I play on PS3 but i use Proximity Alarm, Stealth Enhance and Mobility Enhance. Proximity Alarm is useful because it beeps loudly when a person is close or cloaked near you. Which is why its on all my setups i am horrible at spotting cloakers. lol.. And TAGGING when you see someone and then you can hunt them down. Even gives yous points and helps your team.


   



Joined: 06 30, 2012 /08:28

Posts: 5

Location: United States
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 08 01, 2012 /02:40 

I was waiting on pins and needles for a plethora of information and advice in response to your post, sadly, I expected the underwhelming amount of responses you received.
I have found that most of our community is tighter than a beer barrel bung when it comes to sharing information. Keep playing well, and sooner or later you will be accepted into the fold. Once you make that transition,(assuming you have the talent) you may be privy to certain techniques that will help elevate your game.
Blasphemy!, questioning the abilities of the "Anointed One." That sir is an abject lesson in futility. Nobody will broach that subject for fear of reprisal. Lets just say he is the best at what he does. Please lets not have a deluge of examples of how he played badly "once." He has folded everyone in this game like Origami. The only defense is to be on his friends list.
For a true test of your mettle try to play in an Elite lobby, its a whole different world.


   

User avatar

Joined: 02 01, 2011 /01:30

Posts: 486

Location: Germany
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 08 01, 2012 /04:03 

Yeah, try to play with elite players, you can learn a lot of them. Maybe you can find someone who will teach you a few things and give you some tipps. I would also admit Proximity Alarm, Stealth Enhance and Mobility Enhance. Use the Feline with ext. mag. Find some good spots to re-load your energy. Hit the Armor mode button quick and don`t shoot when your`e cloaked lol. Never played with or against you so i really don`t know how good u are. Keep up the work and you will getting better!


   

User avatar

Joined: 04 14, 2011 /09:49

Posts: 2134

Location: United Kingdom
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 08 02, 2012 /02:30 

Writen by Ceph Birdo second best player in the EU region and second in Ceph

www.cephgaming.com/forum/m/2059068/view ... npcin1080p

Bookmark the link and study video by video.

We've won alot of battles thanks to these Videos created by our English friend Frankie


   



Joined: 04 03, 2011 /11:49

Posts: 80

Location: United States
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 08 10, 2012 /12:51 

OK, it's time I posted an update of what I've learned and get back to the people who've replied to me. First, the responses:

Phattoni wrote:
I play on PS3 but i use Proximity Alarm, Stealth Enhance and Mobility Enhance. Proximity Alarm is useful because it beeps loudly when a person is close or cloaked near you. Which is why its on all my setups i am horrible at spotting cloakers. lol.. And TAGGING when you see someone and then you can hunt them down. Even gives yous points and helps your team.



Thanks for the tip on tagging. For the most part, I had ignored that ever since I tagged enough to get my achievement, but I have been finding it pretty helpful in routing out the annoying guys who want to camp the roof of the greenhouse on Skyline or any other place where non-confrontational ginnygoats like to hide.

As far as proximity alarm, I'll have to pass on that. It's like the third best module in that category for me, and I just CANNOT give up energy transfer for it. If I played a slower style, that or nano recharge might not be as important to me, but I'm full on cloaked sprinting the entire match. When I get a kill, I'm coming out of a full blown cloaked run directly into armor or staying cloaked and leaping around a bit to get the guy to reveal himself... so I'm so low on energy by that time, that without energy transfer, I'm going to be left standing there heehawing like a jackass waiting to get my birth certificate revoked.

I also think proximity alarm can be a minor distraction. If I am using it and hear it start going off, I'll start slowing down and looking around for the guy. It's probably about 50/50 who finds whom first, thus the confrontation is a coin-flip for me. I'm better off finding guys on my own and setting up the confrontation so that I have the advantage going into it. Then the odds are 80 or so percent in my favor. Although, I suppose effectively using the jumping technique along with the proximity alarm would push the odds more in my favor... but I still can't give up energy transfer for it.



OmniscientWatchman wrote:
I was waiting on pins and needles for a plethora of information and advice in response to your post, sadly, I expected the underwhelming amount of responses you received.
I have found that most of our community is tighter than a beer barrel bung when it comes to sharing information. Keep playing well, and sooner or later you will be accepted into the fold. Once you make that transition,(assuming you have the talent) you may be privy to certain techniques that will help elevate your game.
Blasphemy!, questioning the abilities of the "Anointed One." That sir is an abject lesson in futility. Nobody will broach that subject for fear of reprisal. Lets just say he is the best at what he does. Please lets not have a deluge of examples of how he played badly "once." He has folded everyone in this game like Origami. The only defense is to be on his friends list.
For a true test of your mettle try to play in an Elite lobby, its a whole different world.



lol That's one way to look at it, I guess. As far as Noobified goes, I wasn't really questioning him, and if I were, it wouldn't do any good because I've never seen him post or interact on these forums, so there wouldn't be any answers. I've just seen people accuse or defend him. I don't know what's up with him and I really don't care, but common sense tells me that something is up, although for all I know it could be as simple as him having some crazy fiber optic connection.

I was just wondering how he was able to move the way he did in some situations. I have seen other players move similarly. For instance, they'll be uncloaked and meleeing another player and I'll take a shot at them, but nothing hits them. They'll put on cloak and come zigzagging toward me and elbow me to death like some kind of Tazmanian Devil/Tonya Harding hybrid. From what I've read, it looks like they're playing on 100 sensitivity. I have been playing on 45 or whatever the default was. I cranked it up to 65 and meleed Noobified to death once yesterday, but he got me like 15 times, 9 in one match. Out of all the games I've played with him in the lobby I've probably only killed him 10 or 15 times. The most satisfying was killing him as part of a double kill with a shotgun blast to the face. It was complete luck, but it felt satisfying.



CephDoom wrote:
Yeah, try to play with elite players, you can learn a lot of them. Maybe you can find someone who will teach you a few things and give you some tipps. I would also admit Proximity Alarm, Stealth Enhance and Mobility Enhance. Use the Feline with ext. mag. Find some good spots to re-load your energy. Hit the Armor mode button quick and don`t shoot when your`e cloaked lol. Never played with or against you so i really don`t know how good u are. Keep up the work and you will getting better!


Thanks dude, but most of those tips are beginner tips. It's hard to learn anything from elite players because there is no theater mode and the killcam is plain broken. I'm never exactly sure what they did, but most of the time it involves running past me and then turning on a dime and elbowing me in the back. I was looking for a way to avoid that rather than reproduce it. But yeah, it is hard to see what they did between the cloak and lag and broken killcam. I've seen a few killcams where I died and the guy was shooting at air.




Ceph Walka. wrote:
Writen by Ceph Birdo second best player in the EU region and second in Ceph

http://www.cephgaming.com/forum/m/20590 ... npcin1080p

Bookmark the link and study video by video.

We've won alot of battles thanks to these Videos created by our English friend Frankie



Thanks. I've watched a few videos from that guy and I'll get around to watching more later. The most helpful Crysis 2 video I have seen was this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLL8h8VC6I . The guy basically tells you to leap around a lot until you get the advantage on the guy. This has helped a ton for the problem I was having where a guy would be running toward me and somehow melee me to death. I can just leap when I see him and keep leaping until I get position on him or he reveals himself. I had tried jumping tactics before, but I only jumped once. Keep jumping was the most helpful thing I learned.
______________________________________________________________________


As far as progress goes, there's been good and bad. I've had the best game of my career since I posted this (35-11), as well as a few other 30 kill games. I have also had the worst match in recent memory since posting this. I went 5-15 or 5-17 or something against iNFeCTions/Magic Mike and some other guys in NFCT. I was in a match with randoms against them and went 13-14 or 14-13 or something like that the first time, but in the next match on Parking Deck it just all went to pot.

The majority of that horrible match was due to the fact that they're just plain better at the game than I am. I can accept that. They worked together and I just ran around doing what I do. Usually, that's why I come out even when I play with randoms against a clan... they run together and I just take off running by myself, so whenever I get a kill, I also get killed. But not this time. Anyway, he seemed like a nice enough guy, sent me a message after the match.. said he saw me on the forum and wanted to say what's up. If I never get as good as those guys I'll be OK with it. I just want to be good enough to beast randoms every now and then, and I'm pretty much there now, but I know it is still within my ability to improve - just probably not improve to elite status.

I also got to play against 2 S2K guys and my team won, because I was also lucky enough not to get paired with randoms against them. I think there were 3 or 4 guys from JoKr there. We beat Meltingface and some other S2K guy. I went 12-8 and I think 3 of the 4 JoKr guys had a better match than I did, but I'll take an 12-8 in that situation and be happy with it. I just remember Meltingface being one of them because he sent me a message saying C4 was not respected. lol He also said good game though. I was just doing my C4 skill assessments because I was working on getting back to level 50 on my 2nd reboot. He can live with those 2 C4 deaths I gave him, and one of those deaths was part of a smart play and a completely legit use of C4. I threw it in the stairwell because I saw a guy heading toward me and as I was running away I was getting meleed in the back, and about to get double meleed when I detonated it. I was just beyond the radius of the blast and he was just inside the radius of the blast, and I accidentally caught 2nd guy for a double kill that was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But the point is, if I can live with the double melee deaths, he can live with the C4 deaths.... LIKE A MAYUN LIKE A MAYUN LIKE A MAYUN.

I also added a little melee to my game. I wouldn't melee at all normally, now I've started throwing elbows like Method Man and Redman. It's been helpful. I've gotten a lot more double kills and a few triple kills that way: just give 'em a little what for with the feline and finish 'em off with an elbow. It's a much quicker kill and it's been helping me stretch out a feline clip to 3 or 4 instead of 2. It doesn't always work, though... and sometimes I get meleed when they're on the ground and I'm in the air. I don't like that.

Maybe I'll join a clan sometime. People are always sending me invites or messages for tryouts for clans they're starting, especially when I'm in a lobby and have several good games in a row. I generally ignore them, but it would be nice to play on a team with people other than randoms so I would at least have a chance at playing against and winning against another team. I should be able to find something to join. I do as well or better than 2/3rds of HOWL and as well or better than the bottom JoKr or B0SS players. On the other hand, better teammates means less kills for me, thus less fun for me, since it's more fun for me to kill 20 guys and lose than it is for me to kill 10 and win. I dunno.


   



Joined: 06 18, 2011 /11:55

Posts: 842

Location: United Kingdom
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 08 10, 2012 /04:46 

terrible video to be honest!! thats not how you use hmg lol.


   

User avatar

Joined: 05 05, 2011 /02:15

Posts: 802

Location: Turkey
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 08 10, 2012 /06:54 

You can check this out as well: viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48428


   



Joined: 04 03, 2011 /11:49

Posts: 80

Location: United States
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 08 10, 2012 /08:07 

@CephSaintJason

The helpful part of the video is that it tells you to jump around a lot. That's something you barely ever see in a Youtube video and there's no theater mode so it's hard to see what the best players are doing... but after watching this and trying it yourself, you can easily tell what they're doing. Jumping in and of itself is not the reason they are so skilled, but it is a pretty big building block in developing a skill set similar to theirs.

@xXxMaster-Jedi

Thanks, I'll watch that video later this evening when I can. I noticed your post last week but there was no video there at the time and I kind of skimmed it and got the impression that you were still in the process of compiling a tutorial and I forgot to check back.


   

User avatar

Joined: 05 05, 2011 /02:15

Posts: 802

Location: Turkey
 Post subject: Re: How to play better?
PostPosted: 08 10, 2012 /08:22 

At that time I forgot to post the link, lol.

DukeMagnem wrote:
@xXxMaster-Jedi

Thanks, I'll watch that video later this evening when I can. I noticed your post last week but there was no video there at the time and I kind of skimmed it and got the impression that you were still in the process of compiling a tutorial and I forgot to check back.


   

  Previous topic | Next topic      Page 1 of 11    1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 11  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  


Jump to: