| Author |
Message |
|
|
Post subject: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /09:53 |
|
Please don't say it will. I love the Crysis series and I've gotten all the games and even the book but I won't be able to get Crysis 3 if Origin is a requirement because I will never give EA the ability to lock me out of the games I've legally bought for some inane reason.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Jac70
Joined: 07 28, 2011 /06:33
Posts: 251
Location: United Kingdom
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /11:02 |
|
I'm with you. Origin should always be optional. There is no reason why this piece of adware needs to be launched when you're playing a game. I want to see Crysis 3 either be a proper standalone piece of software of some changes to the way Origin works. My purchase decision will rest upon this.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
TSAndrey
Joined: 04 20, 2011 /02:35
Posts: 2881
Location: Croatia
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /01:02 |
|
Yes. It will be great. No pirates, less hackers, cloud support, faster updates...
|
|
|
|
|
 |
ghost_leader
Joined: 06 11, 2010 /04:09
Posts: 15
Location: Bulgaria
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /02:15 |
|
TSAndrey wrote: Yes. It will be great. No pirates, less hackers, cloud support, faster updates... You are an idiot if you believe that.I'll give you an example with BF3 which requires Origin. 1. No pirates? Nope,you can download the single player right away and play it without an issue for free. 2. Less hackers? Nope.Although the game uses PunkBuster(best anticheating system in my opinion) there are still lots of hackers,who use paid hacks,which are much harder to detect.Origin has nothing to do with protection against cheaters. 3. Cloud support? Yes,it has and that's at least one positive thing. 4. Faster updates? HELL NO. I waited 4 MONTHS for a single patch.4 months.The PC patch got delayed because of console certifications.So Origin doesn't help with faster updates.It only limits you to download the patches from there.You can't download the patches from anywhere else which is a big issue for some people.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
TSAndrey
Joined: 04 20, 2011 /02:35
Posts: 2881
Location: Croatia
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /02:24 |
|
ghost_leader wrote: TSAndrey wrote: Yes. It will be great. No pirates, less hackers, cloud support, faster updates... You are an idiot if you believe that.I'll give you an example with BF3 which requires Origin. 1. No pirates? Nope,you can download the single player right away and play it without an issue for free. 2. Less hackers? Nope.Although the game uses PunkBuster(best anticheating system in my opinion) there are still lots of hackers,who use paid hacks,which are much harder to detect.Origin has nothing to do with protection against cheaters. 3. Cloud support? Yes,it has and that's at least one positive thing. 4. Faster updates? HELL NO. I waited 4 MONTHS for a single patch.4 months.The PC patch got delayed because of console certifications.So Origin doesn't help with faster updates.It only limits you to download the patches from there.You can't download the patches from anywhere else which is a big issue for some people. 1. Yes, the singleplayer. But not the Multiplayer... Every games Singleplayer can be cracked 2. BF3 has almost no hackers. And Origin makes it easy to ban an account. 3. As I said, it's better. 4. The reason why BF3 patches take 6 months is because it costs too much to make a patch on consoles, so they wait until they have many fixes before rolling it out. Crytek in the other hand, releases a patch every 20 days and Origin would be very useful for that.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
ghost_leader
Joined: 06 11, 2010 /04:09
Posts: 15
Location: Bulgaria
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /02:29 |
|
TSAndrey wrote: 1. Yes, the singleplayer. But not the Multiplayer... Every games Singleplayer can be cracked
2. BF3 has almost no hackers. And Origin makes it easy to ban an account.
3. As I said, it's better.
4. The reason why BF3 patches take 6 months is because it costs too much to make a patch on consoles, so they wait until they have many fixes before rolling it out. Crytek in the other hand, releases a patch every 20 days and Origin would be very useful for that. 1. The game will still be pirated.And some people who would buy the game won't do it,because it will require Origin and won't be available on Steam.So in my opinion if Origin is required that would decrease sells. 2. Origin doesn't do anything against hackers.It's Punkbuster.Also you can report cheaters using Battlelog,but I'm not so sure how good this is.The leaderboards are still full with cheaters/statpadders.Again - Origin does nothing agaisnt cheaters. 3. Sure,Origin has those stuff,but Steam has them too and they're better there.Why not release the game on both platforms? 4. Patches can be released on PC every week if they wanted.But they didn't.Everything has to be the same on all platforms.And since Crytek are also doing that - they want the console versions to be pretty much the same as the PC version,I'm sure the PC version will suffer.Crysis 2 anyone?
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Jac70
Joined: 07 28, 2011 /06:33
Posts: 251
Location: United Kingdom
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /02:46 |
|
TSAndrey wrote: Yes. It will be great. No pirates, less hackers, cloud support, faster updates... Origin does nothing that a standalone piece of software should do anyway. There is no reason that Crysis 3 couldn't have inbuilt cheat protection and a robust user account system. Origin is simply a market store for EA. The reason they enforce it on players is to get a direct pipeline into your PC which they use to send adverts for their products directly onto your machine. Plus there is the issue of the program 'scanning' your system for market research purposes. Although this has been clarified to some degree and is not much worse than what the other digital platforms do as well. I'm all for publishers providing a digital platform for their products for those that want to use them, it's the 'install it or f*ck off' attitude I don't like. It was no accident that this new policy of enforced usage was bolted onto one of the most anticipated titles of recent years.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
M4dn3ss
Joined: 01 13, 2011 /09:58
Posts: 3985
Location: Australia
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /03:11 |
|
Jac70 wrote: I'm all for publishers providing a digital platform for their products for those that want to use them, it's the 'install it or f*ck off' attitude I don't like. It was no accident that this new policy of enforced usage was bolted onto one of the most anticipated titles of recent years. QFT
|
|
|
|
|
 |
ESFER25
Joined: 02 12, 2011 /08:42
Posts: 237
Location: Spain
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /04:08 |
|
Oh, the hypocrisy. Everyone's crying because EA forces you to use Origin if you want to play certain games, but... Doesn't Valve do the same with Steam yet everybody loves them? Of course, Steam is amazing and 10 times better than Origin imo, but this is actually the same...
I agree with TSAndrey, you barely see any hacker in BF3, you get cloud support and faster updates. And yeah, even piracy is harder with BF3, if I remember correctly, people could play MP Crysis 2 even with a pirated version, I highly doubt BF3 is the same case.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
MMAMickey
Joined: 02 17, 2011 /05:35
Posts: 1300
Location: United Kingdom
|
|
Post subject: Re: Will Origin be required? Posted: 04 25, 2012 /04:29 |
|
Chaos_Mauler1 wrote: Please don't say it will. I love the Crysis series and I've gotten all the games and even the book but I won't be able to get Crysis 3 if Origin is a requirement because I will never give EA the ability to lock me out of the games I've legally bought for some inane reason. Perhaps you should try and understand what you've 'legally bought'. I'll give you a clue.. if you don't have a disc, then nothing. What you have paid is a licence fee. You have purchased for yourself a unilateral set of obligations in return to use someone else's software. You don't actually own anything, and your rights are extremely limited. What you agree to with the EULA is not a contract either, EA have no obligations, you have many. TSAndrey wrote: 2. BF3 has almost no hackers. And Origin makes it easy to ban an account. Lol I disagree with this. Hackers are often banned, but there is no shortage of them. As has been said anyway, that is down to punkbuster, not Origin.
|
|
|
|
|